CIA's “Anonymous Kewper Stein” Briefed Eisenhower and Nixon in 1959 About UFOs, Human Abductions and Animal Mutilations
© 2014 by Linda Moulton Howe
“We had gotten paperwork earlier about an abduction and the people —
the ones that were abducted — is where a bright light came in their
bedroom and they floated out the windows and up into this craft.”
- Spring 1959 briefing by “Anonymous Kewper Stein” and his CIA boss
with President Dwight Eisenhower and V. Pres. Richard Nixon at FBI Headquarters,
Dept. of Justice, near White House, Washington, D. C.
Paragraph in 11-page alleged 1980s U. S. government document from MJ12
Project AQUARIUS that was established in 1953. Click for: 061514 Earthfiles Real X-File.
June 27, 2014 Albuquerque, New Mexico - A year ago in May 2013, I was participating as an investigative journalist in a Citizen Hearing at the National Press Club in Washington, D. C. I was there to speak before a panel of retired Congressional representatives paid to listen to forensic evidence and human eyewitness testimonies that I and many others have documented. The truth is that extraterrestrial biological entities are interacting with this planet and secret agencies of our government know it.
One of the videos presented at the hearing was of a man called “Anonymous,” who worked for the Central Intelligence Agency between 1956 and 1960 on extraterrestrial matters while he taught cryptography at a southeastern Army base. He asked me to call him “Kewper,” but I know him by his real name from sixteen years ago when I recorded him on a dozen audiotapes in May to June 1998 at his then-home in Florida. He was ill with diabetes and wanted to tell what he knew before passing and even agreed while I was there that I could return in a month to videotape everything for a TV documentary I had proposed for broadcast after his death. But soon after I left, he was twice approached by government agents threatening his son if Kewper ever talked with me again. Eventually in 2008 I produced a twenty-part series of reports from all of my recorded interviews with Kewper in which I called him “Stein” then. Thus, the series of names over time: “Anonymous Kewper Stein.”
A couple of months ago in my April 2014 Coast and Dreamland broadcasts and in my Earthfiles reports, I shared some excerpts from my 1998 recorded interview with Kewper about his August 1958 trip to Area 51, Nellis AFB in Nevada, where Kewper and his CIA boss, Anthony, along with three other CIA agents, were escorted inside a large hangar built into Papoose Mountain along Groom Lake to view WWII German Vril discs such as the Haunebu II that were in the same hangar with other discs identified as “extraterrestrial.”
Now I want to share some more excerpts from my interview with “Anonymous Kewper Stein” a few months after the Area 51 trip. This begins in Spring 1959 when Kewper and his boss, Anthony, were asked to brief President Dwight Eisenhower and Vice President Richard Nixon in the nation's capitol.
President Dwight Eisenhower from 1953 to 1961, with his Vice President
Richard Nixon in White House. “Anonymous Kewper Stein” briefed them both in
Washington, D. C., along with his CIA boss, Anthony, about German discs,
extraterrestrial craft, human abductions and animal mutilations in 1959.
Historic time of meeting described: Spring 1959.
“Anonymous Kewper Stein,” excerpts from 3-day-interview by Linda Moulton Howe in his Florida home, June 1998, about Washington, D. C. trip in Spring 1959: “This is at the meeting in Washington, D. C., with President Eisenhower — and Nixon was in on the meeting. I told President Eisenhower at the time when we showed the various shots that we had that it looked like a German Haunebu II, and he (Eisenhower) said, ‘I think you're right.’
German Vril Society's “Die Glocke” (The Bell) RFZ (RundFlugZeug, or Round Aircraft)
series from 1934 - 1941. As war had started in 1939 the RFZ-5 became the Haunebu I and II
(photographed above) and by 1941 the RFZ-7 had become the Vril 1. Source: Nazi UFO Technology.
AT THAT POINT WHEN HE SAID, ‘I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT’ DID HE ELABORATE ABOUT THIS WHOLE ISSUE OF WHAT WAS GERMAN AND WHAT WAS NOT IN TERMS OF THE DISC?’
No, he didn't. He (Pres. Eisenhower) just agreed with me that it looked like a Haunebu II and he said, ‘Yes,’ so he had to be familiar with the different types of crafts just from looking at pictures, you know.
I always had the feeling that Eisenhower knew more than we knew and that he knew a lot more than what Nixon knew. Nixon was not completely in the loop on this thing, because Nixon was always frustrated he was on the outside looking in.
WHAT TIME OF DAY DID YOU TRAVEL? AND WHAT WAS THE PROCESS?
Yeah, the same way. We flew up to Washington, D. C. to the airport. A limo picked us up and took us to a hotel. Stayed over night. We were told to go to the Capitol building and that we would have a meeting in the Capitol with Eisenhower and Nixon and some other CIA officials from Langley (CIA Headquarters in Virginia). So we waited in this Rotunda and pretty soon a guard came up to us and said, ‘I've gotten a call that they had called and changed the location.’ And we had the meeting with Nixon and Eisenhower at a meeting room in the FBI building (officed in 1959 in the Department of Justice.)
Briefing in FBI Headquarters, Dept. of Justice
United States Capitol with its large rotunda is lower right red circle at end of Pennsylvania
Avenue. The White House is at the opposite end in upper left red circle. The Justice Department,
built in 1935 at 600 Pennsylvania Avenue and Constitution Avenue N.W. (middle red circle),
holds over one million square feet of space.
Department of Justice housed the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) until the
early 1960s when a new J. Edgar Hoover Building was built at 935 Pennsylvania Ave. NW.
So we waited in this Rotunda and pretty soon a guard came up to us and said, ‘I've gotten a call that they had called and changed the location.’ And we had the meeting with Nixon and Eisenhower at a meeting room in the FBI building (officed in 1959 in the Department of Justice.)
In that last meeting, we had a few FBI officials that came to the meeting that were involved with the (UFO/ET) project. No Air Force. They (Eisenhower and Nixon) had already talked to the Air Force and all the other forces the week before.
So, we had to get back in the limo and go over there (Dept. of Justice).
NEAR THE WHITE HOUSE?
Not too far away, no.
SO, YOU DROVE FROM THE CAPITOL ...
To the FBI headquarters and they ushered us into the meeting room. It was about the third or fourth floor. We went in and Eisenhower and Nixon were already there. So, he got our information.
HOW MANY PEOPLE? AND WHERE IS NIXON? AND WHERE IS EISENHOWER?
When we came in, the room was well lit. It was like a conference room in the FBI headquarters building (Dept. of Justice in 1959). And Eisenhower was there and Nixon was there, both sitting down already at the table. They were discussing some type of paperwork and the FBI people came in right behind us, three of them.
WAS J. EDGAR HOOVER WITH THEM?
No. No, he was not there.
EISENHOWER AND NIXON ARE SITTING THERE TALKING ABOUT PAPERWORK, WHAT HAPPENED?
Eisenhower, he asked the FBI people, ‘Do you have much material?’ They said that they had a reasonably good stack to go over. And they asked us what we had. We said we really didn't have much — at that time, we probably had ten or a dozen cases to cover.
He (Eisenhower) said, 'We're taking you first. Come forward and show us what you have.' So we brought the suitcase out.
IT'S ANTHONY AND YOU ONLY FROM THE CIA?
Yes. We opened it up and laid it down on the floor and took out a big folder that we had everything in it and laid out all the photographs.
German Disc Photos
“Does the CIA have any knowledge about how many
of these crafts are being reported coming out of Argentina?”
- President Dwight Eisenhower in CIA briefing with Kewper, Spring 1959
Reichsflugscheiben: Haunebu II Test Flight.
Source: Nazi UFO Technology and Disc Aircraft.com.
That's when the first photograph I showed was the Argentine one and I said, 'This looks like a Haunebu II German craft.' And Eisenhower said, 'I think you're right.' And that's when Nixon looked at Eisenhower, looked at me and just looked sort of totally stunned. So I had a feeling that Eisenhower kept Nixon out of the loop. When I mentioned the German craft, Eisenhower did not question it, so he had already known about the German space program for who knows how long before?
DID ANTHONY SAY ANYTHING?
Anthony said, ‘Yes, I agree. This resembles the German crafts from Argentina.’
EISENHOWER DOESN'T PICK UP ON THAT AND TALK ABOUT, ‘DO WE KNOW ANYTHING MORE?’
The only thing he said was, ‘We've had ships down in the area. Does the CIA have any knowledge about how many of these crafts are being reported coming out of Argentina?’
U. S. Navy Radar Tracked “Saucers Coming In
from Outer Space” to South Pole and Argentina
We gave him (Eisenhower) that report that we had gotten that our Naval vessels had radar screen contacts of saucers coming in from outer space and going in and around the crest of the South Polar region. And also coming in and down into the Argentina area. [ See Antarctica website below.]
THIS IS EISENHOWER SAYING THIS?
That was part of a report that we had and that we had radar contacts.
WHEN YOU SAID THAT?
Eisenhower says, ‘That is to be expected. We expected this.’ It's something that he was already familiar with. He might have gotten a report from CIA Headquarters on something like that when it first came out.
OR FROM THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL, FROM THE MAJESTIC TWELVE PEOPLE?
Yes, everything that came always mentioned Majestic 12.
DID EISENHOWER EVER REFERENCE MAJESTIC 12?
Yes, at one time we were looking at the different photographs and he mentioned he had told Nixon, ‘This looks familiar.’ It was an aerial shot over The Netherlands, he said. ‘Contact Majestic on this,’ he said.‘Verify if this is the very same thing that they had sent two months ago.’
DID NIXON RESPOND?
Yes, he said, 'OK, I'll do this.'
DID ANYBODY EVER EXPLAIN WHY THE TERM ‘MAJESTIC’?
We knew it was the term for the original people that were digging into the flying saucer episodes.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WERE PARALLEL TRACKS OF INTELLIGENCE AND THAT MAJESTIC WOULD HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THE NSC.
CIA WOULD HAVE BEEN DOING ITS INTELLIGENCE, THE FBI DOING ITS INTELLIGENCE.
THE ARMY, THE AIR FORCE, THE NAVY. AND ALL THESE PARALLEL TRACKS AND SOMETIMES INVESTIGATING EACH OTHER. AND I KNOW THAT NAVY HAS TRIED TO GET INTO CIA FILE. I TALKED WITH A MAN WHO SAID HOW HARD THEY TRIED AND HOW THEY WERE BLOCKED.
DID EISENHOWER IN THAT MEETING SAY ANYTHING ABOUT AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHETHER OR NOT HE WAS PERCEIVING THERE WAS ALLY OR THREAT OR ANY INTERPRETATION?
No, in fact, Nixon said that Eisenhower had just told him that they were not gaining enough ground on this thing. They would need new blood, especially the Air Force.
Pres. Eisenhower Disappointed No Progress
On Understanding UFO Mystery
DID EISENHOWER IN THIS MEETING IN THE SPRING OF 1959, IS THAT WHEN HE SAID THAT HE DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHY NO ONE WAS GETTING TO THE BOTTOM (OF UFO MYSTERY)?
That was a quote that I mentioned earlier - it was Nixon that said, ‘Ike is really disappointed in this thing,’ and said we need new blood involved in this thing to try to move it along because we're not really accomplishing that much. He said that was Ike's word and then when we walked out, the Air Force Colonel had said to us, ‘Well, it looks like I'm out of a job.’
IS EISENHOWER SAYING ANYTHING WITH IMPATIENCE, WITH ANGER, WITH ANYTHING THAT WOULD GIVE INSIGHT THAT HE HAD ANY SENSE OF WHETHER THERE WAS HOSTILITY — ANY INTERPRETATION GIVEN AT THAT MEETING ABOUT THESE CRAFT AND THESE BEINGS?
The only thing he asked us is, ‘Do you have any pictures with aliens similar to what you had before?’ And we told them no, that we did not have anything with aliens.
I think we sat there about fifteen minutes with him (Eisenhower). He looked at all of them and we told him about all of the interviews that we had overseas with people who had taken a picture. We had this one picture that we showed him from Holland where this thing hovered over this little town area.
No. That was a round one. And eventually, when it started going up and then darted and shot away at high speed. But he (Eisenhower) mentioned ‘alien saucer.’
THERE IS A STORY THAT HAS FLOATED FOR YEARS THAT EISENHOWER WENT TO SEE ONE OF THE LIVE BEINGS IN CALIFORNIA AND IT WAS COVERED ON HIS DAILY TRAVEL SCHEDULE AS GOING TO A DENTIST, BUT THAT HE ACTUALLY WENT TO SEE A BEING SOMEWHERE IN CHINA LAKE.
I never saw anything like that, any material like that or any word during the meeting we had — nothing like that was ever brought up that he had seen an alien, or spoken with an alien, whatever he (Eisenhower) might have done.
DID NIXON SAY ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY AT THAT MEETING IN APRIL 1959?
No, very, very little. He said (to FBI waiting in office), ‘In your FBI report, is there anything unusual in that that would be interesting to CIA as far as looking for unusual types of crafts overseas.’
FBI Investigating Human Abductions
And then they told us that they had a lot of sightings. They said we have some abductions ...’
THEY SAID THAT, THE FBI?
THEY SAID ...
They were investigating two abductions that people claim they were up in a saucer and came back. They had a neighbor that had taken a picture of the craft and this one woman was abducted, so it tied together with two people. They said it's probably accurate. They they said that outside of that, we had some more cattle mutilations.
DID EISENHOWER ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT MUTILATIONS AND ABDUCTIONS?
No, so he was very familiar with that apparently. Nixon or the President did not seem like surprised.
THE QUESTION IS: WHAT DID THEY KNOW ABOUT WHO? WHAT/ AND WHY?
I have the feeling that Eisenhower knew a lot more and Nixon kind of knew the basics, but not in detail.
AND YOU GUYS WERE TREATED ONLY AS A NEED TO KNOW.
Yes, and the President said, ‘If it's foreign and something is hot, call Richard because he's handling anything in the foreign affairs bit. He's my right hand man on foreign affairs.’
DID YOU OR ANTHONY, WHEN YOU GOT BACK TO FORT (black out), WERE YOU ABLE TO FIND OUT INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE FBI ABDUCTION CASES WERE ABOUT?
We had a few and we asked the CIA headquarters to give us a rundown and that particular case that was brought out from this meeting, but we never got it back.
IN TERMS OF ANY OF THE DISCUSSION WITH NIXON OR ANYBODY ELSE IN WASHINGTON, D. C., ABOUT ABDUCTIONS, DO YOU REMEMBER ANYBODY MAKING A COMMENT OF ANY INTERPRETATION OR ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT THE ABDUCTIONS COULD MEAN?
Well, we had gotten paperwork earlier about an abduction and the people — the ones that were abducted — is where a bright light came in their bedroom and they floated out the windows and up into this craft. Then they are operated on or had like a physical. Then they woke up in the morning and they were back in their beds.”
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