“We gathered that the E.T.s put the implant in her neck not too far
from the spinal column and we gather that was like a homing device where
they would be able to find this particular woman again wherever she may be.”
- “Anonymous” Kewper Stein, Former Army/CIA UFO Analyst
April 25, 2014 Albuquerque, New Mexico - Continuing from Part 1 with audio excerpts of
3-day-interview by Linda Moulton Howe with “Anonymous” Kewper Stein in June 1998 at his Florida home.
Play MP3 interview.
“Anonymous” Kewper Stein excerpts from 3-day-interview by Linda Moulton Howe in his Florida home, June 1998: “Then I talked to my boss (Anthony) and I said, ‘Ask the being if he's a demon. (laughs) And ask him where he came from and how old he is.’
I stayed out. I was in a room sitting about 20 feet away from the one-way mirror? I guess you would say.
YOU COULD SEE THROUGH IT.
I could see the being. I could see that he wasn't real tall — probably 5 foot. After my boss went in, I could still see him (alien) sitting behind this table. When you would come up with a question in your mind, you didn't have to say the question. He could read your mind and he would answer it before you would speak the question.
And my boss said, ‘First of all, are you a demon?’
You could see he (alien) was kind of nervous and frustrated, fidgeting around and he said, ‘No!’ The other ones (CIA agents) asked, ‘Where are you from?’ And he (alien) gave them some kind of star or galaxy area that nobody had never heard of, with a number or something like that.
Then my boss asked him again, ‘Are you a demon possessing this alien being?’
He (alien) looked right up at the ceiling. He kind of sighed and didn't answer the question. Then he (alien) got up and started pacing back and forth with his hands behind his back, like he didn't want to show his hands. He had his hands behind his back or his hands out of sight. And of course we could not see his feet because that was behind the desk.
When Anthony asked him the first questions about demons, Anthony could hear the answer, but the other two men (CIA agents) could not hear the answer. They did not hear the answer at all telepathically. Only the person that was asking the question heard the answer. So, the guys were repeating the questions and answers like back and forth.
DID ANYBODY SAY (TO ALIEN),‘WHY DON'T YOU JUST TELEPATH TO OUR HEADS SO WE HEAR AT THE SAME TIME?’
Yes, they did. He (alien) just said something like, 'This is the way we communicate,' like one-on-one.
YOU'RE JUST WATCHING AND YOU COULD SEE THE POINT WHERE THE GREY BEING GOT UP AND SEEMED TO BE PACING AND WALKING. DID YOU ASK YOUR BOSS, 'WHY WAS THE BEING GETTING UP?'
Yes, I did, and he (Anthony) said, 'Well, I asked him (alien) your questions, but you really know how to push their buttons!'
IT'S SO ODD THAT ANTHONY DID NOT ASK HIM, 'SHOW ME YOUR HANDS BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN THIS OTHER FILM OF SIX FINGERS. LET'S SEE YOUR HANDS.'
I think that Anthony just thought that all aliens had six fingers at that time. I think he thought if you've seen one alien, you've seen them all, or something like that.
Also, this Col. Jim on the way out, I said, ‘Is this the only alien that you have?’ And he didn't answer that quetion either. Col. Jim had mentioned just before he went in that this is an alien called a ‘Grey.’ Some of the aliens have different features. There are a number of different kinds, but this happens to be a Grey.
The other ones looked grey, too! (laughs)
Area 51 Gray Compared to 6-Fingered
Humanoid in Autopsy Film
Left: After the surgeons in June 1947 lifted the closed eyelids of the 6-fingered
and 6-toed entities, the doctors discovered black lenses covering each large eye.
But the 6-fingered body was muscled in contrast to Right: Thin “Gray” introduced
to Kewper, his CIA boss and colleagues at Area 51, Nellis AFB, Nevada, in August 1958
DID ANTHONY ASK,‘WE'VE SEEN THE 6-FINGERED HUMANOID (IN AUTOPSY). DO YOU HAVE ONE OF THOSE?’
We didn't come up with the fingers because we didn't see his (alien) fingers.
BUT THEY DON'T EVEN LOOK ALIKE.
No, they don't. But he did say before we went in that there are different types of aliens and this is a different type of alien with a different appearance to the autopsy film that you would have seen.
DID ANYBODY SAY, ‘WELL, WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THESE DIFFERENT ALIENS?’
Col. Jim did say that they all seemed to use the same terminology that they've come to be a help, not a hindrance, and are not coming here to destroy the country.
WASN'T THERE SOME DISCUSSION BETWEEN YOUR BOSS AND COL. JIM ABOUT WHY IS THIS BEING HERE?
Yes, and I asked how long has he been here? Where is he going? What are you doing with him besides debriefing him or whatever? And Col. Jim said he had been here for some time.
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU ASKED YOUR BOSS AND COLLEAGUES WHAT THE TELEPATHIC COMMUNICATIONS SOUNDED LIKE. COULD YOU GO OVER THAT AGAIN?
I asked my boss and the others what the (telepathic) voice (of Gray) sounded like. The description that they gave was that it sounded maybe more electronic than a human voice.
THEY THOUGHT IT WAS SORT OF AN ELECTRONIC NEUTRAL VOICE.
Yes, ‘neutral,’ not high and not low.
HOW DID THE SESSION COME TO A CLOSE?
Well, Col. Jim was in there at the very beginning of the session. Then he came out through the door into the room where I was and kind of looked up in the air and rolled his eyes like, 'Same old questions.'
CIA Investigated Animal Mutilations
and Human Abductions in 1958
FROM THE TIME THAT YOU GOT FROM AREA 51, DID YOU GO RIGHT BACK TO FORT ------, ALL OF YOU?
NOW, IT'S AUGUST OF 1958...
... AND YOU'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO A LIVE BEING. YOU'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO THE SEVEN DISCS. YOU'VE SEEN THE 16MM BLACK AND WHITE FILM OF THE 6-FINGERED HUMANOIDS. YOU'VE BEEN IN THE CIA LIBRARY (LANGLEY BASEMENT ARCHIVE) AND YOU'VE SEEN FILES CONCERNING ROSWELL, THE RETRIEVAL OF AT LEAST THREE KINDS OF DISCS WITH THE IMPLICATION THAT THERE ARE DISCS IN ARGENTINA AND ANTARCTIC. AND YOU GO BACK TO FORT ------. WHAT KINDS OF THINGS NOW START COMING INTO YOUR OFFICE?
Well, when we get back, we had quite a few cases as far as UFO sighting cases. We used to see some of these alien craft come right in over the radar we had on ships from outer space right down into the Argentine area. And we saw crafts come right into Antarctica area from outer space on radar. We worked together with the British and they would send us radar tapes of the craft flying at terrific speeds and coming down into the Antarctic area. They couldn't follow it all the way down because of the curvature of the Earth, but they knew it was headed for that general area. Some of them were caught coming in going about 30,000 mph — huge, fast speeds!
WHAT WOULD BE THE DISCUSSIONS WHEN YOU WOULD GET TOGETHER AS A GROUP ABOUT WHAT WAS THE INTELLIGENCE IN THESE MACHINES? WHAT IS IT DOING AND WHAT DOES IT WANT?
Well, Anthony was always trying to get more information like from CIA Headquarter (Langley) s if they had found out information as far as these beings. And sometimes we would have a huge amount of sightings, like military sightings. Something that we knew were completely legitimate. All of a sudden, we would have dozens in some areas of crafts, which really kind of blew our mind because all of a sudden they would appear on military screens and just fly right over them at huge speeds. Those we knew were authentic because they came right from military equipment.
The Pueblo Chieftain, Pueblo, Colorado, Saturday, October 7, 1967.
DID ANYBODY SAY, ‘THESE (E.T.s) ARE HOSTILE?’
No. We did have some reports of several people, or one person or something like that, was abducted.
MILITARY? OR CIVILIAN?
Civilian, in the countryside in Greece or Italy or something like that.
THERE WAS A KNOWN SIGHTING OF A DISC AND A PERSON?
A person had disappeared and was walking up to look at the craft and disappeared, or that they were taken aboard the craft and kind of examined. And they found themselves laying on the ground away from the area where the craft had sat down.
THESE ARE REPORTS THAT YOU WERE READING IN 1958, 1959 AND 1960?
TEAMS WOULD GO AND INTERVIEW THESE PEOPLE?
Yes, we had the cattle mutilations going back at that time and they were investigated locally. They weren't really ours because they weren't out of the United States, but they gave us those to picture the cattle carcasses to be able to look for that in some foreign site, you know, if we found cattle mutilations.
DID THE REPORTS THAT CAME TO YOUR OFFICE AT FORT ------ SPECIFY THAT THE UNUSUAL ANIMAL DEATHS WERE DIRECTLY LINKED TO EXTRATERRESTRIAL CRAFT OR DISCS?
Yes, because they had saucer crafts spotted in the area and seen by the ranchers and they'd find these carcasses. Each one was tied to a saucer sighting.
WHEN YOU GOT THOSE REPORTS — ANIMAL MUTILATIONS, HUMAN ABDUCTIONS — AND YOU WOULD GET TOGETHER FOR A MEETING AND SAY WHAT?
Well, yes, why are they doing it? Why are they taking certain parts of these cattle and animals and other animals. I mentioned before that they had mutilations of small animals also. It wasn't just cows.
Anthony came up with a twist. He said they (aliens) would usually take like the sex organs from the cattle. And they said maybe they (aliens) are using these because we had seen the alien autopsy that said they (aliens) were neither male nor female. Maybe they are trying to use some of this (genetic) material to either try to manufacture a being that could reproduce or something like that. That's kind of like the main gist of the animal mutilations. And the abducted humans — they were always like probed or examined, this type of thing.
Puerto Rican Female Abductee
Implanted with Chip in Neck
We had one woman who had an implant in her neck, which I think was the Puerto Rican site. The agent there had a doctor remove this thing from her neck and found out it was a chip of some kind. She said that they had implanted something in her, but she had a miscarriage right away. It was just a tiny, little fetus — very young — and they could not see any difference between like if it was a regular human fetus or if it could have been like an alien fetus. But apparently that must be part of their (alien) experimentation. We gathered that the E.T.s put the implant in her neck not too far from the spinal column and we gather that was like a homing device where they would be able to find this particular woman again wherever she may be.
SO YOU WERE DEALING WITH ABDUCTIONS, IMPLANTS, ANIMAL MUTILATIONS, CRAFT — SOME GERMAN, SOME EXTRATERRESTRIAL — 6-FINGERED HUMANOIDS AND GREY BEINGS ALL IN THAT SHORT PERIOD OF TIME BETWEEN 1958 AND 1960.
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• 12/15/2011 — Part 9: U. S. Government Knowledge of “Interplanetary” Craft, 1942 - 2011
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• 11/02/2011 — Part 7: U. S. Government Knowledge of “Interplanetary” Craft, 1942 - 2011
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