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Part 3: Hacked Podesta Emails — Alien Bad Guys? Good Guys?

© 2016 by Linda Moulton Howe


“In ongoing requests for our Skype talk to discuss Disclosure and the difference between
our contiguous universe nonviolent obedient ETI and the celestials of this universe ...”

- Edgar D. Mitchell, Sc.D., and NASA Apollo 14 Astronaut
to John Podesta on July 10, 2015


Return to Part 1.

October 28, 2016 Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada - In this third half-hour about the WikiLeaks dump of hacked John Podesta emails, I would like to share some excerpts from now-deceased Apollo 14 Astronaut Edgar Mitchell. In 1964, he received his Doctorate in Science (Dsc) from MIT with a focus on aeronautics and astronautics. 

Apollo 14 launched from Earth on January 31, 1971, with Astronauts Edgar Mitchell, Alan Shepard and Commander Stuart Roosa. Edgar Mitchell piloted the Lunar Module and with Alan Shepard landed on the moon’s surface February 5th, 1971.  The two astronauts spent 33 hours collecting 100 pounds of lunar samples.

Astronaut Edgar D. Mitchell, Apollo 14 lunar module pilot stands by the deployed
U.S. flag on the lunar surface during the early moments of the mission's first spacewalk.
He was photographed by astronaut Alan B. Shepard Jr., mission commander. Astronaut
Stuart A. Roosa, command module pilot, remained with the Command and Service
Module "Kitty Hawk" in lunar orbit. Credit: NASA.

During their return to Earth, Edgar Mitchell was staring out the window of Apollo 14 at the sun, moon, Earth and stars. Later in a 2007 documentary, Shadow of the Moon, he said, “Suddenly I realized that the molecules of my body and the molecules of the spacecraft and the molecules in the body of my partners were prototyped and manufactured in some ancient generation of stars.  And that was an overwhelming sense of oneness, of connectedness. It wasn’t them and us, it was, ‘That’s me. That’s all of it. It’s one thing.’ And it was accompanied by an ecstasy, a sense of — ‘Oh my god, wow, yes’ — an insight, an epiphany.”

Earth rise from the moon photographed on October 12, 2015,
by NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter spacecraft.


Dr. Mitchell left NASA in 1973 and founded the nonprofit Institute of Noetic Sciences to support research into consciousness and evolving human potential.

In his 1996 book, The Way of the Explorer: An Apollo Astronaut’s Journey Through the Material and Mystical Worlds, Dr. Mitchell wrote:  “It has occurred to me that human destiny is still very uncertain, that the veneer of civilization is yet exceedingly thin, and our current actions are not sustainable. Believing as I do that the universe is an intelligent system, and understanding the absurd and tragic fate that may await us, I have wondered if we are prepared for our own survival, if our own collective consciousness is yet highly enough evolved?”

Dr. Mitchell at age 85 passed away February 4, 2016,  on the eve of the 45th anniversary of his February 5, 1971, lunar landing.

From WikiLeaks, here is an excerpt from  Dr. Mitchell’s email to John Podesta two and a half years ago on June 25, 2014. The subject was Dr. Mitchell’s  “Request for A Meeting to discuss Disclosure”  with John Podesta, then Counselor to President Barack Obama.

"Dear John Podesta:
As we move into the last half of 2014, the need for extraterrestrial disclosure intensifies. Thank you for you kind consideration and response to my email. This 4 July weekend I will meet with President Obama's friend, Ambassador Hamamoto, at the U.S. Mission in Geneva during their Independence Day Celebration. While in Geneva, I will also speak at the UN and the European Space Agency regarding why we must move forward with disclosure and specific programs such as manned moon missions, since some scientists and others are calling for moon colonization due to what they perceive is happening on Earth.

John, with this email I am requesting a conversation with you and President Obama regarding the next steps in extraterrestrial disclosure for the benefit of our country and our planet."


June 25, 2014: Edgar Mitchell's Meeting
Request with John Podesta and President Obama

Edgar Mitchell's email to John Podesta on June 25, 2014, when Podesta
was then Counselor to President Barack Obama, a "Request for Meeting to discuss
(UFO/E.T.) Disclosure" via Rebecca Hardcastle Wright and Podesta's assistant Eryn Sepp.


Six Months Later: January 18, 2015

Six months later, Dr. Mitchell emails John Podesta again on January 18, 2015, saying:

"Dear John, As 2015 unfolds, I understand you are leaving the Administration in February. It is urgent that we agree on a date and time to meet to discuss Disclosure and Zero Point Energy, at your earliest available after your departure.

My Catholic colleague Terri Mansfield will be there, too, to bring us up to date on the Vatican's awareness of ETI (extraterrestrial intelligences).

Another colleague is working on a new Space Treaty, citing involvement with Russia and China. However with Russia’s extreme interference in Ukraine, I believe we must pursue another route for peace in space and ZPE (zero point energy) on Earth."

Six months later, Edgar Mitchell asks again for a meeting
with John Podesta on January 18, 2015.


Six More Months Later: July 10, 2015

Six more months later on July 10, 2015, Astronaut Mitchell emailed again about a Skype meeting : “to discuss Disclosure and the difference between our contiguous universe nonviolent obedient ETI  and the celestials of this universe ….”


July 10, 2015 Email for John Podesta (Eryn),
Campaign Mgr. for Hillary Clinton
from Edgar D. Mitchell, Sc.D., NASA Apollo 14 Astronaut

“In ongoing requests for our Skype talk to discuss Disclosure and the difference between
our contiguous universe nonviolent obedient ETI and the celestials of this universe ...”

- Edgar D. Mitchell, Sc.D., and NASA Apollo 14 Astronaut

See Websites below for URL to this July 10, 2015, email exchange between NASA
Apollo Astronaut Edgar Mitchell and John Podesta, Hillary Clinton's Campaign Manager.


My interview with Grant Cameron picks up now with the seeming contradiction "nonviolent obedient ETIs and celestials of the universe" on planet Earth where worldwide animal mutilations and human abductions linked to UFOs have been reported for decades.



Linda:  “So why are E.T.s mutilating animals around the world and abducting humans?

Well,  you get into that if you ask the experiencers and you say, ‘Is this evil?’ Only 9% will say it’s evil.

You say, ‘If you had to do this over again — if you could get the aliens to stop doing it — 83% would say, ‘No, don’t stop it.’

So we have this idea that it’s some sort of invasion. And I maintain through my discussions with Mary Rodwell (Australian abductee researcher)  that if you regress everybody deeply and you ask them, ‘Did you agree to be in this situation, everybody will agree that this was something they planned before they came in here — that this is not abduction. This is an agreement to raise consciousness and these people are playing a role in the whole thing.

As to cattle mutilations, we may not know what is going on with cattle mutilations — it may look very bad, but if you were doing cattle mutilations, why would you not take that cow with you? Why would you drop it in front of everybody for people to investigate and make it so bizarre? It’s like this is message time. This is like make people think. Because otherwise, you just drop the cow and take it. If you need the fluid or you need whatever, why would you drop the cow. That’s the $64,000 question.

Well, but you have also been exposed like I and others in our investigations to what people inside the government behind the matrix have been alluding to for several decades — that there is a secret war. Humans have allies that are from somewhere else. But there are also enemies, unfriendlies, from some place else. And there is something going on concerning Earth that is a geopolitical territorial conflict. Is it a war over who claims us? Claims the Earth? Claims this solar system? There is some kind of secret war.

Yeah. I don’t agree with that. It’s oneness. It’s consciousness. You have two laws: it’s either Oneness, consciousness is the basis, which means it’s all one. Or you have the idea of separation that it’s separate. It’s Duality. It’s Good versus Bad. Us versus them. The Americans versus the Mexicans and this kind of Duality type thing.

I don’t think if you look at the experiencers and Edgar Mitchell’s survey of the experiencers. 54% are talked to (by aliens) about Oneness and love. And you get this idea that almost none of them think it’s evil. So I believe that They (aliens) get here and I go through how a craft is flown. I’ve got all these people on record telling me how the craft is flown, how they are allowed to fly it.

And it all comes down to this idea of consciousness being the basis of  the thing. That’s how They (aliens and abductees) fly the craft. That’s how they move around in time and space. You have to understand Oneness.  There is no Time. There is no Space. There is no physical universe. That it’s all consciousness and it’s like a dream thing and They understand this and we don’t. We still think it’s a physical 3-D world with time and space. We’re still living in these rules of Newtonian physics and we believe that things are measurable and that time is a real thing; that space is a real thing.

Even back at Einstein days, he was saying that these things are probably going to be illusions. My personal opinion is that we’ve got a lot of the basic stuff wrong. When you get into quantum physics that all this kind of stuff really starts to be questionable as to what is reality and how does reality actually work?


Is Our Universe Someone Else's
Computer Simulation?

A lot of papers are beginning to surface in science about the question: could this universe be someone else's computer simulation?

Yeah, that’s the same idea, exactly the same idea, except they are changing it as a computer simulation and if  you look at the channelers or the consciousness people, they’ll say it’s all like a dream. It’s not a real 3-D solid thing that we think it is. And I always reference people to go and look at the work that was done at Stanford University on lucid dreaming. It was first established in 1975 at Stanford that you could actually be awake in a dream and people who come out of those dreams will tell you that it was more real than the real world — more real than reality. So if that’s a dream, that’s where you start to really question whether we really know what’s going on.

People will say, ‘OK, even some of the aliens say we weren’t abducted, but they come in the dreams. And the alien will say, ‘We come to you in your dreams because now you are in our world.’ And that’s what I think They are. They are in this sort of lucid dream-type thing where they are able to come into the physical reality and then go back. Or you’d see the number one being reported by experiencers, according to the Edgar Mitchell survey, is not a Grey. It’s not an alien. It’s a ball of light. And so the question is:  if it’s a ball of light that changes into an alien that a lot of people will describe, is it physical? Or is it a ball of light?

They (Other Intelligences) are able to move from this sort of lucid dream-type world into the physical world back into Their world and we just think that all that world is illusionary and that we live in the real world, which is not the way it is. That They are in the real world and we’re in the illusion.

But why would another dimension bother with humans on planet Earth in this small arm of the Milky Way galaxy?

Because once you get into that world, it’s like a person on a psychedelic experience or somebody that has the nirvana experience of meditation. Or Edgar Mitchell’s experience when he was coming back and he had this experience where he realized he was one with the universe — that we’re all one.

So once you realize that it’s all one, then you’re into the help mode. When you’re in the separation mode, when you think that everything is separate or individual, then it’s rape, pillage, steal whatever you can get. Whoever’s got the most toys when they die wins.

That’s the world we live in now — is this separation world where it’s me versus you and if I don’t steal your stuff, you’re going to steal my stuff. And we kill all the bad people. And there’s bad people and we’re the good people. We’re always the good people.

But in a oneness universe where we realize we’re all leaves on the same tree, then you have this idea where you’re there to help, that you’re there to grow, that that’s what evolution  — what reincarnation is about is becoming better and better and better. And it comes into this world of helping people rather than the idea of being separate from everybody else and wanting to gather up physical things.


Friendly Versus Unfriendly E.T.s

Controlled remote viewer, Lyn Buchanan, who worked for the Defense Intelligence Agency at Fort Meade, Maryland, in 1986 to 1989 (next door to NSA) — he said one of his remote viewing tasks was to remove view friendly and unfriendly extraterrestrials in this universe. Lyn said he and other remote viewers have reported that the universe is teeming with life. A lot of it is friendly and wants trade routes. But there are real unfriendlies and they like to exterminate and control and have territory. Our planet is a reflection of those differences. One of Edgar Mitchell's emails to John Podesta said that the ETIs in the 'contiguous universe' are not going to allow violence on Earth. But that seems contradicted by the fact that humans on Earth are in a century in which we have had non-stop violence on Earth and the biggest arguments are over religious issues.

No. No, it’s not true. My major (in university) was political studies and I studied the Russian government. And I know that the key Number 1, 2, 3 exterminations in the 20th Century had nothing to do with religion. The Number 1 was the Chinese in 1967 to 1975 period. Up to 78 million people killed.  There was no religion involved there at all. That was a Communist atheist regime, the same as Stalin. And Lenin in the Soviet Union, it was 20 million people estimated killed and that had nothing to do with religion. People in Cambodia were executed. That had nothing to do with religion.

What it comes down to is separation. It’s believing that I’m different from you. The Republicans are better than the Democrats or Democrats are better than Republicans. The Whites are better than Blacks. And Germans are better than Jews. It’s separation that causes all evil and war. Religion, yes, plays a part because it’s separation — my religion is better than your religion. But if you take a look at what’s going on in the United States, this big divide between the Republicans and the Democrats — a sort of stand off where it almost looks like it’s going to be a civil war.  There’s a Syria-type situation. That’s got nothing to do with religion. That’s got to do with political ideaology. So it’s separation and not religion.

Tom DeLonge brings this into Skunk Works and into these people and he says that religion is the basis of all UFO stuff and that the aliens are getting all the religions to fight against each other. It’s like the U. S. military. It’s like we just need another enemy! You know, if we run out of the Arabs and blaming North Korea, then we’re going to go after the aliens.

So, when  you give the briefing to the President, you say’They are evil aliens and we need to spend money on weapons and we have to fight them off because They are coming to get us. It’s the whole separation argument. It’s we’re the Good Guys and the aliens are the Bad Guys.

If the truth were your and Edgar Mitchell's perspective that the universe is one and entangled ...


...and everything is fine, why wouldn't the United States government and England and others have told the entire world about the presence of other intelligences that are entangled in one and everything is fine — long ago?

Because they are still living in a world of separation. It’s run by the U. S. military!

But it isn't all just one agenda and it isn't just one ETI. That there are ETIs that may want us to evolve and are trying to hurry our evolution because they know that there are bad guys and that we are vulnerable as long as we are being kept in the dark about what is in this universe.

It’s not a direct thing where they land on the White House lawn like an invasion and tell us how to live our lives. That’s definitely not what’s going on. It’s a very, very complex phenomenon and Tom Delonge is saying his people are telling him that, and I would agree with that. That it’s much more complex than people think it is.”


Return to Part 1.

Also see:

• 05/28/2016 — UAPs and Alien “Gods" with Tom Delonge.

• 01/29/2016 — Pt. 2 Why Wasn't Laurance Rockefeller Pressure On Hillary and Bill Clinton to Open Up Secret UFO Files Successful?

• 01/29/2016 — Pt. 1 Hillary Clinton and John Podesta — Tweets About Aliens and 2016 New Hampshire Campaign Interview.

• 02/16/2015 — Part 1: Beyond Podesta's Tweet to Some Important Leaked UFO Documents.

• 05/27/2016 — Alien Agendas Include Animal Mutilations and Hybrids.


Earthfiles would appreciate hearing from others who have had firsthand encounters with an alien presence on Earth. All requests for anonymity are honored. Please email: [email protected]

More Information:

For further information about U. S. gov't. knowledge and cover-up of UFOs and E.T.s, please see the books and DVDs by Linda Moulton Howe in the Earthfiles Shop, as well as the many reports in the Earthfiles Archive, of which a few are listed below from the nearly 2,500 in-depth reports organized in chronological order from 1999 to 2016 ongoing.

• 08/26/2016 — Part 2: Some FBI Docs About Unidentified Light, But Much Still Sealed 74 Years Later
• 08/04/2016 — UPDATE Part 1: Was Bismuth/Magnesium Layered Metal in NM UFO Crash A Superconductor? Click for Real X-File Report.
• 07/02/2016 — NASA Photo Lab Tech Saw Negative of “Alien Object” On Moon Blacked Out
• 07/01/2016 — Antarctica Retired Navy Flight Engineer Warned by NSA to Stop Talking About Missing Scientists
• 07/01/2016 — Former NASA Engineer Says 5 Structured Domes in Moon Crater Photo Blacked Out
• 05/27/2016 — WWII Was An E.T. Battle Fought Through Humans, According to Retired U. S. Navy Engineer
• 05/27/2016 — Alien Agendas Include Animal Mutilations and Hybrids

• 03/08/2009 — Final Part 20: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases
• 02/24/2009 — Part 19: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases
• 02/11/2009 — Part 18: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases
• 02/04/2009 — Part 17: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases
• 01/07/2009 — Part 16: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases
• 01/02/2009 — Part 15: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases
• 12/24/2008 — Part 14: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases
• 12/22/2008 — Part 2: CIA, UFOs and Hollywood
• 12/09/2008 — Part 13: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases
• 12/04/2008 — Part 12: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases
• 11/30/2008 — Part 11: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases
• 11/27/2008 — Part 10: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases
• 11/19/2008 — Part 9: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases
• 11/16/2008 — Part 8: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases
• 11/05/2008 — Part 7: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases
• 10/03/2008 — Part 6: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases
• 09/24/2008 — Part 5: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases
• 09/12/2008 — Part 4: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases

• 09/07/2008 — Part 3: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases

• 09/02/2008 — Part 2: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases
• 08/27/2008 — Part 1: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases


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